Herman Cain: For Every Person Who Says I Harassed Them, There Are ‘Thousands’ Who Say I Didn’t

I must stand up to defend Cain on this one, he is probably telling the truth.

I am sure there are at, the every most, a thousand women, that he has NOT harassed yet.

Would that work with "for every woman who says that I a great in bed"? Same logic.

that headline is not what he said.. I heard the quote earliet

for every woman that has said I harassed them, there are 1000s that havn''t"

they haven't said he didn't harass him.. they haven't said a thing yet,,so this could be a freudian slip..

So is he saying their is one woman who he harassed per every two to three thousand Americans? That works out to a lot of harassed women. ;-)

Perhaps the thousands of women he is referring to wasn't his type or else he would have harassed them as well. So far nine women are excusing Herman Cain of sexual abuse. What it is about the number 9 that keeps haunting him?

Oh. My. God.

Jeffrey Dahmer: For every teenage boy who says I raped him, murdered him, and ate his corpse, there are "thousands" who say I didn't!

So far nine women are excusing Herman Cain of sexual abuse.

Nine?! Just this afternoon it was, like, five. WTF!?

Nine

Nine

Nine

Probably named after what all these women were saying

NO

NO

NO

Herman Cain: For Every Person Who Says I Harassed Them, There Are ‘Thousands’ Who Say I Didn’t

Thank goodness for small things.

"The American people deserve better than someone being tried in the court of public opinion based on unfounded accusations," Cain said.

Big cheers.

Who farted? The first part of Cain's statement is dead-on: even before the numerous accusations of sexual harassment, the American people deserved much, much better.

"And I value my character and my integrity more than anything else," he added. Then came the big finish:

"For every one person that comes forward with a false accusation, there are probably thousands who will say that none of that sort of activity ever came from Herman Cain," Cain said, referring to himself in the third person, as is his custom lately.

Humongous red flag. Once a political candidate starts referring to himself/herself in the third person, that is the time to start seriously considering another person. But fast.

"I am Herman Cain, and Herman Cain approves this message from Herman Cain."

What does he call those thousands? The ones that got away

Randy:

That is his "Catch and Release" Policy.

"Once a political candidate starts referring to himself/herself in the third person ..."

Yep, once a candidate starts to distance himself from ... himself!

republican presidential candidate Herman Cain tried to "defend" (???) himself regarding the numerous sexual harassment allegations against him by stating for every person who has accused him of sexual harassment, there are probably thousands who haven't - WOW!!!

How do you find these idiots? I did not do it would have been sufficient. This man reminds me of Jacob Zuma of SA. At least Bill Clinton admitted he did it because he could.

For every woman he harassed, there are thousands of women who are pissed about it!

Sure you're right Herman. But I didn't know there were that many people that still believed the Earth is Flat. But rest assured Herman, I am not one of them... Take the lie detector test Herman-nothing less will do! Otherwise,sign the sexual abuse registry and seek help.

Hell would freeze over and pigs fly before the Republican Party would elect a black man as president. So this is really irrelevant to the larger picture of the presidential race. I am stuck in a position of "I don't know, and I don't care." It would be the right thing to do to make sure this isn't a smear campaign by his competition.

...Herman Cain tried to "defend" himself regarding the numerous sexual harassment allegations against him....

With so much political baggage; with so many skeletons in your closet; Why run for public office, especially the Presidency?

This answer endears him to TEAnut base in so many ways.

• He belittles sexual harassment victims.
• He shows he's one of them, a nut and moron.
• He shows he's the biggest douche in room.

Just playing to his base.

We are not interested in thousands of women who don't have to come forward to tell us that Herman has not sexually harassed them.

For whatever reasons, there are sexual harassment settlements on Herman's resume. He's been making statements about the settlements that are best described as truthiness (he didn't remember, he suddenly remembered bits and pieces, etc.)

Flame off dude, flame off.

For every person who says I harrassed them, there are thousands that say I didn't? That remark makes no damn sense whatsoever. ???????

"For Every Person Who Says I Harassed Them, There Are ‘Thousands’ Who Say I Didn’t" -- Herman Cain

"Day ain't over yet" -- Dirty Harry Callahan

"Bob Dole likes Herman Cain. Bob Dole remembers when Bob Dole used the 3rd person a lot in his speeches. Now Bob Dole does have some advice for Herman Cain- Lay off the Viagra (c). Bob Dole knows that just because you can now get it up with regularity does not make you any more attractive to the opposite sex- seeing Elizabeth running screaming from our house woke Bob Dole up to that fact."

This guy is a kook, plain and simple.

Closer to the truth:

For every one person that applauded for me tonight, there are millions that would boo me off the stage.

buh bye!

If my math is right, that means there are ~329,000 people that the old letch HAS sexually harassed and ~329,670,000 he has yet to get to.

he started talking in third person on Kimmel saying this:

H: I don’t regret that choice of words because (laughter) when people believe Herman Cain and his message, they know that it is sincere.

So many potential possibilities. So little time.

sarc

1) That argument is total nonsense. If this garnered any applause, it's a damn shame that anyone could possibly consider this even slightly rational as a defense.

2) It sounds like he's saying there are thousands of women who have yet to come forward.

3) You see? Of the 5 women I'm accused of murdering, there are THOUSANDS that I'm not accused of murdering.

Herman Cain is a fine example as to why America does not need a man like him in the top job. If this is his best shot, run for the hills America, get out whilst you can, is all I can say

For every person that thinks Cain will be our next president there are thousands who know he won't.

For Every Person Who Says I Harassed Them, There Are 'Thousands' Who Say I Didn't

Sounds aspirational.

So many women, so little time.

And I'm one of the many thousands that know Cain isn't going to make it to the general election. I estimate he has a few more weeks before dropping out.

Here's the thing, with his comment calling Nancy Pelosi "Princess" during the debate, had Pelosi been an employee of his such a comment, clearly used in a demeaning manner could constitute sexual harassment.

Good point Seb, looks like we found a 6th accusation, of course Mr. Cain will deny it ever happened. Calling people anything other than their legal name is a risky move in the professional world and more often than not is a veiled attempt to ridicule or "harass" them. Not to mention that it is very unprofessional!

I just don't' think that he sees anything less than attempted rape as sexual harassment.

I would love to see him guest on Maddow. In fact, I would love to see this entire field debate Maddow and that should simply be the end of the matter. She is literally everything they all stand firmly against.

I just don't' think that he sees anything less than attempted rape as sexual harassment.

sticking your hand up a lady's skirt is pretty damn close to attempted rape as far as I am concerned.

I most definitely is sexual assault!

I would dearly love to put polygraph sensors on all the candidates in these debates to test them for validity. Problem is the equipment on Cain would be making so much noise that we wouldn't hear what he was saying.

Oh wait.......no loss.

The American people deserve better than someone being tried in the court of public opinion based on unfounded accusations," Cain said.

Big cheers.

Who farted? The first part of Cain's statement is dead-on

Yes, it is dead-on, and when he said it, I thought "Whoa, he's going to step out of the race".

Herman Cain is...off. When I watch him talk about these charges, I can't help thinking that there's something missing in him.

The total hypocrisy of the left! Where was the hardcore self righteous media when it came time to look into Obama's past which was shaded in darkness. The left propaganda smear machine will stop at nothing, including payoffs for lies and deceit.

Is it true, I don't know, but I am certainly not going to believe a freaking word you and your liberal smear machines have to say!

As soon as this one woman stood with Gloria Allred (the hit woman of the left) I
questioned the integrity of the entire situation. Of course the left never once
questions the lies of the Obama smear machine. It’s very sad! Let Obama RUN ON HIS RECORD and let all the out of work people, the underemployed, the record amount of food stamps, the collapsing dollar, the enormous debt he has created speak for itself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have had enough and everyone I know has as well. Let’s divide the country in half and go our
separate ways. We are hardly the United States of America. You liberal
progressives can go create your own liberal utopia and us conservatives will live our way. The Independents can decide for themselves. We want nothing to do with you, your lifestyles and your self serving, self indulging ways. Go do the work yourselves.

This country has been divided in half and there will be no more compromises, so we might as well get a divorce NOW! Of course we will NOT BE PAYING YOU ANY ALIMONY.

TomTom-72 wrote:

With so much political baggage; with so many skeletons in your closet; Why run for public office, especially the Presidency?

I'm really beginning to think Cain was actually so politically naive enough as to think he could mount a presidential campaign without any of this stuff coming out.

It's just one more reason for him to hang it up.

WoodieRae-3499404

I would dearly love to put polygraph sensors on all the candidates in these debates to test them for validity. Problem is the equipment on Cain would be making so much noise that we wouldn't hear what he was saying.

Between the lot of them, those polygraphs would go up in flames - definite fire hazard. Keep the fire department on standby if it ever happens.

Well here is the difference, while the media did jump on board with the birth certificate and Wright issues, it was the GOP that made them issues of his qualification to be in office.

Defense attorneys should pay attention. Now you have a new defense. But your honor, for every person my client has murdered, there are MILLIONS he hasn't.

VetteLover

The total hypocrisy of the left! Where was the hardcore self righteous media when it came time to look into Obama's past which was shaded in darkness. The left propaganda smear machine will stop at nothing, including payoffs for lies and deceit.

And for how many years did the right perpetuate that phony birth-certificate garbage, just for starters? Don't even mention the word hypocrisy, you're in over your head.

I have had enough and everyone I know has as well. Let's divide the country in half and go our separate ways. We are hardly the United States of America.

I think the right can blame themselves for that one. Rush Limbaugh started driving that wedge in the late 1980s, and the parade of Rush-wannabes that's followed have been working their butts off to divide this country ever since. It's never been more than cheap political theater, and you bought into it. Don't blame those who think for themselves.

We want nothing to do with you, your lifestyles and your self serving, self indulging ways. Go do the work yourselves.

We do. Too bad you're too busy letting Rush and the rest of that hate parade tell you otherwise, or you might have noticed.

VetteLover

You liberal progressives can go create your own liberal utopia and us conservatives will live our way.

Nah, it's much more fun to elect people who piss you off just to watch you whine and knash your teeth. That's why I'm voting for Obama again. It's not that it think he's a terribly good leader, it's just that I can't pass up the opportunity to make you miserable.

Great seed, Brite. 8-)

so we might as well get a divorce NOW! Of course we will NOT BE PAYING YOU ANY ALIMONY.

Keep in mind that by and large, the blue states pay more to the feds than the red states, meaning red states need blue state money to survive.

Let's let the TEA GOP run on their record--the downgrading of the US credit rating, the climbing unemployment thanks to their obstructionism and churlishness.

You know Herman, for everyone who votes for you there are thousands who will not.

“For every one person that comes forward with a false accusation, there are probably thousands who will say that none of that sort of activity ever came from Herman Cain,”

SO MANY WOMEN, SO LITTLE TIME !!

It's never been more than cheap political theater, and you bought into it. Don't blame those who think for themselves.

Shhhhh thats supposed to be a secret. Next you will be telling them wrestling isn't real either.

Grae: I do the math differently. I start with the assumption that Cain is only likely to harass adult women (no evidence yet of men or children being harassed) so that's a population base of about 110 million in round numbers. Now he said "thousands", which could be anywhere from 2,000 to 20,000. (If it's under 2,000, it's hundreds, and if it's over 20,000 the measure would be tens of thousands.) So, being generous and dividing the 55 mill by the best case 20,000 he's probaly admitting to harassing only about 5,500 women. Nice guy, huh?

I would dearly love to put polygraph sensors on all the candidates in these debates to test them for validity.

I like this idea. In fact, lets require it every time they speak in an official capacity. Every campaign or policy speech. Wvery interview. Every townhall. etc....

The woman he just recently denied even knowing, to include her voice or face, was seen talking to him very closely to at an event about a month ago. Keep on digging that hole deeper and deeper Cain. Now, he does have a decent singing voice so maybe he can get a job doing singing telegrams.

For every bank I've robbed, there's thousands I haven't.

Thanks for the post and all the humorous postings!! I laughed out loud when he said it. I'm sure the trolls will show up soon, so thank you all for brightening my day (in a sad sort of what is the world coming to way) - Hey at least I laughed!!!

I'm a GOPer but I now doubt (perhaps prematurely) Herman Cain to the point my wife and I now think both Herman Cain and Rick Perry may not qualified to be nominated by the GOP - -

Mitt Romney and Marco Rubio may be the GOP ticket.

You liberal need to realize that Clinton was not only accused of sexual harassment but also sexual assault. The accusations came from woman who were more creditable than the women accusing Cain. If you liberal followed the same rules of evidence then as you did now. Clinton was the first president that is openly known to have committed sexual assault.

Here's the thing, with his comment calling Nancy Pelosi "Princess" during the debate, had Pelosi been an employee of his such a comment, clearly used in a demeaning manner could constitute sexual harassment.

By making the statement he only confirmed sexual harassment are probably more true than not. It also proves just how arrogant he is. Surely he didn't think he was helping his situation. Or is he going to claim once again, "it was a joke."

The accusations came from woman who were more creditable than the women accusing Cain

what??? says YOU? LOLOLOL

Hey just b/c Clinton did it does not make it OK for Cain. Two wrongs NEVER make a right.

If you liberal followed the same rules of evidence then as you did now

A woman from the past accuses a public figure of a past discretion..Clinton+Cain...check

A president lies about having a form of sex...Pres Clinton check

A presidential candidate changes his story several times on one day.....Cain check...giving the appearance if conservatives would follow his pattern of changing the story to suit his needs they should at a minimum have doubt in his credibility.

AnnForTruth01 great point although he proved his arrogance long ago he just keeps reinforcing it publically.

But, CM, he does claim to be in to equal opportunity. But you are correct, thousands implies 2K+.

Wow! From reading all these, the left is sooooooooo scared of Cain! LOL! You people will keep pushing these lies until you all look like complete fools. The truth about these women is already coming out and no amount of lying on your part will keep it from coming out. As usual, the left thinks if you say a LIE a 1,000+ times it miraculously comes true! You're all going to have egg on your face real soon. We already know the Bialek was fired for a false sexual harrassement charge with another company. She has numberous financial problems along with several law suits for non-payment. Gee, she's not doing this for money, is she? What fool doesn't realize that? You have to be a fool on a grand scale to think this woman only "wants to do what is right". Geez, she's not even a good liar. And the other one, the one that wants to get all the "gals" (sound like old home week or something) together so they can character assasinate Cain all together, sort of like a chorus of lying cackling hens. Well that one, actually works for the Obama Administration, but hell, she doesn't have an agenda either. She just wants to do what is right too.

You can make all the nasty, racist, ugly little jokes besmirching the good character of a good and decent man all you like. We know none of you are going to vote for him no matter what, so do you really think we care what any of you think? And please don't lecture me on character. Liberals wouldn't know good character if it jumped up and bit them on the ass.

Clinton was the first president that is openly known to have committed sexual assault.

Bull@!$%#. Clinton never assaulted anyone - he didn't have to. Monica was miffed because he wouldn't have intercourse with her.

You can make all the nasty, racist, ugly little jokes besmirching the good character of a good and decent man all you like. We know none of you are going to vote for him no matter what

A lying misogynist? Interesting definition of good character you have there. This liberal was planning on voting for Cain in the primaries - I can't think of an easier win for Obama in 2012 than someone so clueless about any area of Presidential policy like Cain.

The fact that you, as a woman, support this man is far more scary and truly sad.

I guess you believe women should submit to men and then toast them with a fine glass of good, Christian, Conservative lemonade?

Well you go then with the rest of your 'cast of (ahem, cough, cough) thousands'

As a Liberal, I did not support Bill Clinton during the whole Lewinsky mess. He had a consensual affair, not the first nor the last man to do so. His lying, yes, he needed to be impeached for it.

So Deb would you be so defensive if this was Pres Obama? Would any conservatives for that matter I doubt it. So your generalization of Liberals not knowing good character applies equally with conservatives and liberatarians as well.

We obviously disagree with what is a good and decent man.

You can make all the nasty, racist, ugly little jokes besmirching the good character of a good and decent man all you like.

You know Deb I have made some comments about cain but were you upset with him when he said "blacks are too poor to be republican or blacks are brainwashed"? Did that offend you or do you agree with his statements?

One? Where's the proof? Two? Raises eyebrows. Three? Ut oh. Four? holy crap. Five? Dude you have issues and the pattern is full, ghost rider. Pattern is full.

Women who are supporting him?

Yeah, talk about issues. Lack of self-respect and esteem.

Godfather's "Herman Cain Pick-up/Carry-out Special" - Any Large Godfather's Pizza only 9-9-9 plus you can cop a feel off of the cashier on the way out.

Like a cereal killer says "For every woman I killed, there are thousands of women I haven't killed!!"

(Jay Leno)

Best collection of one liners yet... I'm still giggling.

Deb-658853

You can make all the nasty, racist, ugly little jokes besmirching the good character of a good and decent man all you like.

When one runs as a Republican, would you mind letting everyone know?

ROFLMAO Rorschach.

Voted up!

True DS. There's a difference between self-confident and arrogant. He's definitely the latter.

HERE ya go herman... for every person that votes for cain, there are thousands that won't.for every newsvine supporter for cain. there are thousands of ones that don't, for every rightwing supporter of sexual harassers there are thousands that don't !

Keep in mind that by and large, the blue states pay more to the feds than the red states, meaning red states need blue state money to survive.

Let's let the TEA GOP run on their record--the downgrading of the US credit rating, the climbing unemployment thanks to their obstructionism and churlishness.

You have no clue about economic "Cause and Effect". Lets just see how your liberal California experiment turns out! California will have its hand out for Taxpayer money very soon to keep its self dog paddling. As well as a good majority of other Blue States.

It doesnt matter anymore, the only thing we can agree on is to disagree. You go one way, we will be happy to go the other!

Herman Cain is...off. When I watch him talk about these charges, I can't help thinking that there's something missing in him.

His team, his base, his brother by another mother are not going to let the Democratic machine take him down. His success as moral is a universally known fact says third person Herman Cain. C'mon Plants, everyone knows Herman Cain. Gosh :)

VetteLover

It doesnt matter anymore, the only thing we can agree on is to disagree. You go one way, we will be happy to go the other!

When you say "we", are you referring to the far-right conservative minority? The majority of us don't think the way you do. Now what?

Herman Cain is...off. When I watch him talk about these charges, I can't help thinking that there's something missing in him.

A brain? Heart? Common sense? Common decency? Couth? Class? Tact? Diplomacy? Presidential gravitas and bona fides? Honesty? Integrity? Respect? Intellectual curiosity? Humility? Self-awareness? Positive communication style that doesn't include the Third Person narcissistic, inflated sense of self and importance distancing attribute?

You go one way, we will be happy to go the other!

I have a MUCH better idea, vettelover. We stay right where we are and YOU go away.

If representative government in a constitutionally-established democracy has become too much for you to handle, vettelover, you are more than welcome to find yourself another country. I for one am not going anywhere and will continue to view this ENTIRE country as MY country from sea to shining sea. You can't have any of it. If you expect to take some, then I expect you to be arrested, arraigned and tried for sedition. If found guilty, I expect for you to go to jail.

GG I would only add personality. He is superficial and he is TOAST.

Good to see you, I always LOVE your posts!!

While listening to National Public Radio in the car yesterday, I heard an amusing audio clip of Herman Cain, from the ABC/Yahoo News exclusive interview of November 8, 2011. This one is straight from the horse's mouth:

And so I happen to believe that they're tryin' to put en-- enough of this-- it's not even smoke. There's an old saying, if you throw enough mud up against the wall you hope that some of it will stick. And sooner or later, you'd have a muddy wall.

Yup.

"For Every Person Who Says I Harassed Them, There Are ‘Thousands’ Who Say I Didn’t"

Seriously Herm... THAT's your defense? I'm loving this please do not stop.

C'mon Plants, everyone knows Herman Cain. Gosh :)

Definitely...well, just maybe everyone knows Herman Cain...except Herman Cain, lol.

Mit Romney, Marco Rubio

Marco Rubio- Liar.

Cain(Mayday... Mayday...Mayday... we're going down...)- Toast.

Perry- LMAO! (self immolation).

Bachmann- irrelevant nutter.

Sad days for the GOP.

I wanted my daughter to sue Bill Cosby for NOT being her father. That's how much sense Cain is making. He reminds me of an old boyfriend who told me he was a not as unfaithful as I believed. I told him it was physically impossible for him to be as unfaithful as I believed.

CCArm! I almost added that but then I thought the issue is he has an abundance of "personality" it's just narcissistic.

Good to see you my friend....thank you and definitely back at you!

:)

. Lets just see how your liberal California experiment turns out! California will have its hand out for Taxpayer money very soon to keep its self dog paddling. As well as a good majority of other Blue States.

Proof?

California pays for your red state nonsense. Without California's tax dollars, you'd resemble a third world country.

Red states are parasites.

You might want to read more about socialized countries, like the Netherlands...the people are very happy and don't lack any freedoms I can think of. Without conservatives standing in the way, California and other blue states would be paradise!

The Jonesgirl said,

California and other blue states would be paradise!

I thought it already was! Especially Napa Valley! :-))

California has been and always will be paradise in the best of times and the worst of times and every time in between, thank you.

Why do you think so many people from all over the world flock to visit and live?

When he was in High School he was forced to read: "Catcher in the Thigh," by the Liberal Arts teacher, according to the RNC spokesperson.

You mean like waterboarded forced?

Well if it's part of an established, state sanctioned curriculum and required reading.....there is nothing being forced upon if walking into a school a student knows they are bound by certain rules, regulations, boundaries, expectations, standards.

How dare a school want to educate anyone. The terror!

For every ONE person accusing Cain of sexual harassment there a THOUSAND people who said he didn't for every MILLION people that couldn't care less as they have no intention for voting for Cain.

MountainMike you almost sounded like Cain.....talking in the third person looking in.....got you though....LOL or maybe it was me reasoning to a cain level.

Sad days for the GOP.

Diego: Respectfully you are in for a long and sobering night on November 6, 2012. Many signs point toward another GOP/TP victory including taking control of the Dem Senate.

~~~A primary reason Obama will likely lose in 2012 is Obamacare~~~

Respectfully you are in for a long and sobering night on November 6, 2012.

LOL..Send me Saturday nights lotto numbers while your at it...

If the GOP continues to run Candidates like McCain/Palin, it will continue to lose to ones like Obama/Biden.

The current candidates are bottom of the barrel. Not one deserves the office of President of the Greatest Country on Earth.IMHO. I may not like him, but I'll stick with the Devil I know.

I don't care much for the Dems, they are more then corrupt themselves, but the GOP??? They have lost the plot.. Auto-da-Fe'......it's the only way!

ecagetx

Many signs point toward another GOP/TP victory including taking control of the Dem Senate.

So are these "signs from God" or the misspelled teabagger-type signs?

I am not nearly as sanguine about the President's/democrats' chances in 2012. I look at the fact that McCain ran the worst presidential campaign since Michael Dukakis. He picked the stupidest vice presidential nominee since Dan Quayle. His party's policies brought the entire world to the precipice of financial armaggeddon and ushered in the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. The incumbent republican president failed to protect the nation from terrorist attack and lies us into the invasion of a country that did not attack us at the cost of thousands of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars. The incumbent Administration trashed the concept of shared sacrifice, sending soldiers to fight for oil while implementing tax cuts for those who didn't need them. In spite of all of this, 60 million of our fellow Americans voted for John McCain. If that many people could be so galactically stupid that they endorse with their votes the clearest case of abject fecklessness in government in generations, I don't count on them wise-ing up now to reject the people who continue to advocate the policies that got us into this mess in the first place.

Don't get it twisted. The 2012 campaign will be war. And in spite of isolated and temporary victories against conservative overreach, progressives are whistling past the graveyard if they aren't looking for a path to 72 million votes in 2012, particularly when republicans in every battleground state are engaged in blatant efforts to suppress votes and disenfranchise voters.

Definitely...well, just maybe everyone knows Herman Cain...except Herman Cain, lol.

True. othering... other's is toxic to ones own sense of self. Sad.

Have good day, Plants :)

jmorris re your quote below:

So are these "signs from God" or the misspelled teabagger-type signs?

jmorris: Here are some signs you asked about that Obama may not be re-elected and why his ratings have dropped 30% since he was sworn in:

If you are looking for reason’s O’s approval has dropped 30% since he was sworn in here’s a few from the GOP perspective: Rampant statements that failed to materialize, failed policies, the O administration said that if their first stimulus was passed unemployment would not exceed 8%; it's now at 9%, an apparent class warfare strategy by O, colossal deficits: In 32 months O's annual deficits totaled $3.7 billion; conversely Bush's total deficits for 8 years was $2.7 billion. And especially in Florida O’s suggestion that the Israelis and Palestinians resort to the 1967 borders when beginning negotiations!

Evidence that Obama is out of touch with Congress is that his budget was defeated 97-0 in the Democrat controlled Senate.

~ ~ O's primary problem with JOBS and the election is Obamacare ~ ~

Have good day, Plants :)

You too, Angela:).

What is this? Libatopia?

Well the libs need to go back to Libya. With that being said, which is more true.

Dr. Manning PHD says Obama scored cocaine for his previous lover Larry Sinclair.

Or some blonde saying in 1998 she met Cain, he was wearing a suit, and had no tie, and his shirt was unbuttoned. sure this was'nt the 70s Then he put one hand on her thigh, then one on her head. then she says she was trying to figure out what he was doing. Sounds fishy and must of smelled fishy.

Hope this helps

back to my Tall Iced Tea & Stogey

Well said LCS!

Now back to my beer & chips,,, ;-)

republicans in every battleground state are engaged in blatant efforts to suppress votes and disenfranchise voters.

Both sides play dirty dwillie. But O's failed policies, statements that he didn't fulfill, 9% unemployment and ~ ~ ~Obamacare~ ~ ~ will likely rule the day on Nov. 6, 2012.

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ecagetx

Thanks. The libs sure can be funny, their make-em ups crack me up, and they make good one night stands.

back to My Tall Iced Tea & Stogey

IFeelSo... if I could vote those up a gazillion times... I would... BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Both sides play dirty dwillie

Bull$hit ecagetx.

Republicans have elevated voter disenfranchisement and suppression to a high art form, something republican operatives themselves admit.

Just like in Florida in 2000, the only way republicans can win is by limiting the number of voters.

Sounds fishy and must of smelled fishy.

Your ignorant ugly rhetoric finally got you on my ignore list.

IFeel I suspect what you have done is mistakenly used national debt rather than the yearly deficit (Shortfall for a particular year) - The annual deficit is the shortfall in spending vs. revenue for a particular year. The national debt is the sum total for all US obligations for all Presidents past, present and future obligations as well – The two are vastly different. Your $6.1 trillion figure is likely because you accidently used national debt increases over 8 yrs as opposed to the annual deficit (Shortfall) totals for 8 years.

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Therefore IFeel if you intended to reflect Bush’s total annual deficits (shortfalls) for 8 yrs as $6.1 trillion, your figure is incorrect.

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Respectfully IFeel: Re Obama's suggestion that the Israelis and Palestinians resort to the 1967 borders when beginning negotiations your claim was:

This is the SAME Israeli-Palestinian policy that the US has had for decades!!!

IFeel with all due respect you are mistaken - FACT: The US has had no such official policy for decades.

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If you doubt that why not post this official US policy we've supposedly had for decades? (It doesn't exist.)

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Sorry IFeel, with all due respect you used national debt increases rather than annual deficit increases.

FACT: The national debt is the sum total for all US obligations for all Presidents past, present and future obligations as well – The two are vastly different. Your $6.1 trillion figure is likely because you mistakenly used national debt increases over 8 yrs as opposed to the annual deficit (Shortfall) totals for 8 years.

FACT: The annual deficit is the shortfall in spending vs. revenue for a particular year.

IFeel: You will discover (No disrespect intended) you recklessly posted national debt increases over 8 yrs rather than Bush’s annual deficit SHORTFALL(S) over an 8 year period.

IFeel RE: "Obama's suggestion that Israel and the Palestinians go back to 1967 borders to begin negotiations" here’s your comment:

This is the SAME Israeli-Palestinian policy that the US has had for decades!!! (1.110)

IFeel very respectfully there is no such US official position for decades.* I can post sites like this:

Please Google: "Obama alters U.S. policy, tells Israel to start with ‘67 borders"

.and

New further evidence: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/05/19/obama_alters_us_policy_tells_israel_to_start_with_67_borders .

"Former Congressman Robert Wexler, now the president of the S. Daniel Abraham Center for Middle East Peace, told The Cable that Obama's announcement was a bold step toward Middle East peace that alters U.S. policy in a fundamental way."

. …But what it all comes down to is my challenge to post THE US official position for decades. No such official postion exists - (IFeel, it simply does not exist.)

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*Perhaps you would like to try again to cut&paste THE "US official position" you referred to. Not trying to be antagonistic IFeel, but I think you’ll find there was no such “US official position” as you incorrectly assert.

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Yeah, these women are interfering with his BOOK SIGNING tour; They are messing with his get dummy's money scheme. "You betcha"...

With the Cains,Palins,Newts etc...The Presidency does not pay enough. It's all about more money, more money, more money- more me me me ...

This is hilarious. He must be taking speaking lessons from Bachmann.

He must be taking speaking lessons from Bachmann

And denial lessons from Bill Clinton.

Logic lessons from Palin, speaking lessons from Bachmann, ideological lessons from Newt, cult lessons from all the rest, and Huntsman he ignores.

You stupid despicable lying republican pew sickened bastard.

Cain is now an official "80/20 candidate":

80% of his votes will come from 20% of the voters, and I am just fine with that. I wholeheartedly hope he wins the G.O.P. nomination.

Since that has a snowball's chance in hell of happening, he should just resign, if he has any decency left in the body he can't control.

Good on you for admitting it up front. Now that it's out in the open you can run for president with a clean slate :)

For every seven persons the Manson family killed, there are millions of others they didn't.

Gotta love the twisted logic there. Because there are thousands of women who haven't accused him of sexual harassment, obviously he's innocent?

Gosh for all the kids that have called me "Mom" over the years, (both my own and their friends), there are millions that haven't. Called me "mom" that is.

Still doesn't make me a virgin.

*LOL*

Pretty much the same her, daMamma. When my kids were growing up I was called Mom by not only my own kids, but, by their friends, teachers and just about everyone they associated with. Even when they got older and had their own jobs, the people they worked with called me Mom most of the time too. When I became a grandmother, the grandkids, their friends and their parents, teachers and just about everyone else calls me "Grandma." Yet, there are millions of people out there who never called me Mom or Grandma.

So....what does that mean? What does it prove? That they don't know me, never were around me, preferred to address me in a more formal manner?

So Cain's comparison is really nothing but empty lip service to the morons who don't care if he sexually harassed or assaulted women anyway.

I guess he must think that all the American people are as braindead as those who don't care anyway.

I have to wonder though, where is their moral indignation, their oh so religious piety that it does not matter to them if he messed around on his wife with other women. I guess they figure that if he says his wife believes him, which we only have his word for, then why should they be at all concerned. However, if it were a Democrat they would want him tarred and feathered and quartered, like they did Anthony Weiner, who was never in physical contact with any of the women he was accused of sending sexy pics of his body to.

He is just playing the game to drum up more trash for another book about Herman Cain that he'll likely write after he drops out of the running, which I expect to be fairly soon. Or, he may already be working on it so that he can get it printed sooner, that way he can beat Bachmann to the money train as she is likely to stay in the running, even after the final nomination which she will lose.

Cain is nothing but a male Sarah Palin. But, look how much money she's made off the game, and she's still playing it, just using a different desk of cards.

He didn't limit the 1000's to people he knows.

He once stated that his wife did come out on the campaign trail with him as she stayed at home and kept the sanity of their home going.

At this point I would tend to believe he did want to have her out on the campaign trail with him as she would cramp his style with inviting other women to private dinners and upgrading their hotel rooms to Palatial Suites for them thinking he had bought and/or paid for the right to sexually assault or harass them and get a BJ.

The more that comes out, the less believable he becomes, and I don't think his wife is truly that naive or trusting. But, she may 'stand by' Her-man no matter what as a dutiful, Christian, Southern woman who knows her place.

Correction to my above post...

"He once stated that his wife did come out on the campaign trail with him"

Should read - "He once stated that his wife didn't come out on the campaign trail with him..."

Except for Tiger Woods it was "could have slept with even more women that wanted me but I didn't". For Cain it was "could have harassed more women trying to force them to sleep with me but I didn't"

And Tiger is somewhat attractive. Cain could pose for a totem pole. (Waiting for somebody to suggest he represent King Likkmydikkie.)

@WoodieRae - AWESOME!! Or better yet, King Likkymedikkie Stan Stan

Nice! That actually made me lol

in that double-breasted suit and ranger hat, he does look like a stereotypical pimp.

Stewart, and Colbert are going to have a field day with old herm on this.

Sperman Cain, earning his nickname one assault at a time...

T-800 - I look forward to Jon and Stephen's takes on all the insanity of the gop/teaparty shenanigans.

Cain and all the teaparty candidates have given them volumes and volumes of material!

When people disbelieve accusations with out cosidering the evidence or possibility they're true they are doing it because they want the accusations to be untrue. They are hoping Cain is no less than what he says he is because they, because he's a Republican, hope he succeeds.

There are a couple of Republican candidates I could support. Cain is being dealt what appears to be an injustice. That is what bothers me and nothing else.

Clint, if Perry got the nomination, and you found out that Perry WAS behind the outing of these sexual harassment cases as Cain believes, would you still vote for Perry?

Herman needs to take a Herman break.

I've never met the man and can therefore accurately state that he never sexually harassed me. He's got solid funding and backing from the Kochs to make his primary runs. His 'thousands' comment is cocky because he's got the bank roll.

What is injustice concerning Herman is the manner in which he references the sexual harassment settlements that are not allegations. For clarity: the actual settlements are not allegations. The actions giving rise to the settlements may or may not be allegations. Those settlements are on his resume. Surely, at the outset, he could have defused the reality of the settlements without the lack of memory tactic, or the suddenly remembering some aspects tactic, or any of the tactics that he is constantly using like the 'thousands' comment.

Folks say that Herman isn't being harmed in the polls. The only polls I care about at this point are the primary results. If the teflon covered Herman can win in the primaries and become the teapublican candidate for president, then it's going to be a bumpy general election campaign season, America!

bonos...is that inferring that Perry falsified the relase..that is was made up? Apparently the accusaitons weren't made up since Cain lied about it when it came to light.

Think back to the 2004 and 2008 campaigns...thr eis NEVER a presidential nomination field where skeletons arne't dug up..it happens every single time. Politics is a dirty game, ESPECIALLY when it comes to seeking the nomination. Think back to the nomination run in 2008. The Clinton camp was far from "friendly" to then Sen Obama's campaign.

Mudslnging is the norm but in any case, I would certainly like to know if a potential president has sexually harrassed people and been called on the carpet for it. After all, isn't tha tthe same person who would be signing laws into effect on that same type of subject...talk about hypocrisy.

No, Lynn, I'm not inferring that perry made anything up. I'm just repeating Cain's assertion that he thinks that Perry was being the outing of the existence of the claims.

I'd like to know if people who are incensed that the harassment claims came to light would still vote for Perry if he was found to have been behind it.

Of course they will, bonos- they may not admit it here (see lack of response from your original inquiry) but you and I know very well they will vote for whomever has a (R).

bonos rama

Haven't you notice how much clearer and brighter Mitt 'Mixed-up Mis-matched Mismash' Romney's smile is? Not to say he is responsible for Herman Cain's woes, but I am willing to bet that he knew about it before it was ever made public. He had the gall to say, live and in living color, that public service employees make more money than he does. Such a comment from that millionaire is outrageous arrogance magnified, and downright confident that he will get the nomination.

At first Herman Cain said the media was trying to do a 'poor me-Clarence Thomas high-tech lynching' of his character, then he blamed Rick Perry. His next trick that he pulled out of that pimp hat was that some Democratic Machine was out to destroy his character. What will he do when his accusers mass together and have that much-hoped for news conference which will nip his crap in the bud.

After watching Rick Perry 'ricky ticky tavi' during his whacked out appearance before that audience in New Hampshire, then witnessing that memory loss on that debate last night, the Republican party, nationwide, has got to suppress the vote and do everything they can to even have a viable candidate to challenge the President.

I haven't even mentioned the rest of the low-scoring candidates. That would surely litter this seed with crapola out the wazoo.

Every single one of them have proven, just by their own statements and actions, that if they are the best that the Republican voters have to offer, then for the rightwing it should be embarrassing to have to support either one of them. I doubt if it will matter to them.......which one of these inept and apparently unqualified people get the nomination.

Who knows what will happen next, but in 2012, if the election goes to President Obama, maybe the Supreme Court will step in and just give it to whoever that Republican will be.

Carl Rove must be having night terrors and waking up in a cold sweat.

wjm5-0 wrote:

After watching Rick Perry 'ricky ticky tavi' during his whacked out appearance before that audience in New Hampshire, then witnessing that memory loss on that debate last night,

There's a joke about a teleprompter in there someplace. :)

Seriously, Perry's intellectual capacity is strained just trying to remember his scripted responses. I can't even imagine the meltdown he'd have if he had to actually support his positions.

Have you seen the tape of how Illinois's Republican Sen. Joe Walsh lost his cool during a breakfast conference with his own constituents?

He cussed, got in people's faces and pointed his finger (probably let a little spittle fly), slammed his fist on tables, stomped his foot, hollered at the top of his lungs, and even threatened to have people thrown out when they questioned his policies.

He even claimed he was thrown off balance by hunger....while having that meeting in a restuarant, for God's sake!!!

The Republicans really need to step up that effort to suppress the vote, nationwide.....

Their anti-middleclass agendas and even the hate they have stirred up at the President doesn't appear to be working as well as they thought.

I can see where they are finding it hard to believe that even their own voters would have problems accepting what they are offering to get re-elected, or even get Pres. Obama out of the White House, especially with the Republican candidates falling all over themselves and looking like clowns to the general public.

They seem to suspect that the 2012 elections aren't going to a good time for them, as an electable party.

I did send this one to the Bush white house.

YIKES Student! Did you get an all expenses paid trip to the resort down in Guantanamo Bay, courtesy of cheney, for that?

Perfectly put!

What lie has he been found guilty of? Proof please...

Really ? Would you give Obama or another Democrat such a pass ? I should pull up your comments on Anthony Weiner's articles from the archive and paint your hypocrisy in bright red for all to see.

"There was no settlement."

"There might have been a settlement, but I hope it wasn't for much, because I didn't do anything."

"I made a gesture comparing one of the woman's heights to that of my wife and it was taken the wrong way. As a result, the NRA offered that woman 3 months salary as a severance package."

"The woman who made these accusations against me I've never even met."

All of those were lies. Either by omission, or deception, or malfeasance.

Let me break this down shotgun style for you.

Cain lied about there being a settlement at all, (a businessman that doesn't even know what the definition of a settlement is ?) , Cain lied about the amount of the settlement, Cain lied about the terms which the employees left, and Cain lied about even knowing these women.

You go out of your way to take everything Obama says and does out of context and twist it to fit your political agenda (If you'd like, I'll use your post history to emphasize my point) and yet you bend over backwards to defend someone who thinks so little of you that he refuses to admit he made a human error.

Newsflash: If Cain had said "I was involved in work-related instances with female workers where I conducted myself in a less than professional manner. As a result these women complained to the National Restaurant Association about my conduct. These women were offered reasonable settlements and allowed to leave the National Restaurant Association with a favorable letter of dismissal because of these accusations. I apologize for my conduct at this time, it was wrong of me to do so and I have learned from my mistakes and sought forgiveness from both my wife and God for my actions. I hope that you'll accept the fact that I made a mistake as a man, and I've done my best to accept responsibility for my actions. I'm sorry for any loss of trust this might have caused and I hope you too can forgive me."

It would've been out of the media in 2 days at most. The most recent accusers likely would've never come forward, because he would've accepted responsibility for his actions. Instead, he slandered some women who used to work for him. (Also, a lie. There are no records of them being disciplined while at work or receiving official reprimands)

No one really cares about the fact that he sexually harassed women. Some do, but most - not so much.

What they care about is the fact that he trusts the American people SO little, that he feels it necessary to lie about what he calls 'meaningless' accusations. Spin it out however you want, he has not been forthright in his answers.

Which begs this question, if he'll lie to the people about something trivial , what will he lie about when it's important?

Do you know why perjury is an impeachable offense? The answer is that perjury damages the integrity of not only the officeholder, but the office itself.

The Marine Corps has a definition on integrity - it's applicable here.

Integrity: Doing the right thing for the right reasons, not because someone is looking, but simply because it is the right thing to do.

Clint, this is not a legal case. Mr. Cain has failed the common sense sniff test. IF he thinks he can win, he has the right to take these women to court for slander. You want to guess why he hasn't? Uh, probably because he did it.... After all, he says he will take a polygraph test, but only if he's compelled to do so.... Please, Clint, take the tinfoil off your head. It's not helping you and it only makes your support of Cain look even dumber than Cain.

He can't take them to court because he is running for President and that leaves him open to these accusations without legal recourse. It is up to individuals to afford him a conviction before they sentence him.

This is politics as it's played today.

He is guilty of the greatest sin in elections and that's becoming a punchline for jokes. There's not many politicians that can survive that and most that did had at least a level of competence well beyond Mr. Cain.

No Clint, he can't take them to court because as soon as the judge reads that a settlement was paid, the case will be thrown out.

That and the defense would be able to subpoena the NRA's documents regarding to the settlement, and the non-disclosure agreement would be lifted for the trial.

None of this Cain wants.

It really doesn't matter. Cain is holding his own in the poles and his rise in popularity has been steady all through this tempest in a teapot. And it doesn't matter a whole lot to me, except that I don't like seeing injustice, because I haven't decided who I will vote for yet.

You're right, Clint: Cain will be holding his own pole for the rest of his life.

His campaign, however, is over.

I know, you couldn't help yourself.

Cain is holding his own in the poles and his rise in popularity has been steady all through this tempest in a teapot.

Literally? He must be tired from holding on to those POLES, huh?

I know, you couldn't help yourself.

Yes, it was just too easy. But evidently, Cain couldn't help himself either. ;-)

Cain is not holding his own in the polls, either:

The poll from Reuters/Ipsos found that 57 percent of Republican voters view Cain favorably, a drop from 66 percent a week ago, before claims of sexual harassment surfaced from when Cain was president of the National Restaurant Association.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/192057-poll-cains-support-drops-after-harassment-allegations-surface

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

I like this one because I don't get tempted to use the poll that supports my position.

if on the first two he hadnt started off with
first, denying knowledge
second, shifting to well, I think I know about it but I dont know
third, ya ok, I knew, I even will tell you fully about it, but it was nothing really

then this wouldnt have become what it has

and that was BEFORE the next three women showed up making similar claims

Clint, the RCP link you gave shows the average of Cain's numbers in many polls over the past two weeks.

The point of my link was to show the difference between where Cain stood last week, before the harassment allegations were well-known, and where he is now that people know about them.

We'll see where he is next week.

I see your point and next week will be interesting, Beau.

I agree to 11.3 way up there (though I don't know, as you get votes and move up, do your comment numbers change) anyhoo.

If he had admitted it up front and gave the speech Student of Life wrote, I'd have been fine with it.

And the fact that the more women that speak out brings him more donations - what does that say about his supporters!

And he can't pronounce 'with'. That drives me crazy.

He can't pronounce with.

It's "wif"......and just wait....I am sure ask as "axe" is on it's way as is "I'm fixin' to". He's already said "ain't"

What is a Cain administration going to do send out a translation manual to world leaders they can follow his "special language?"

The "I'm fixin to" is a southern thing - I catch myself saying it sometimes - and people who are from around here think I'm an idiot.

bdubofttexas

There are idiots (as seen on TV) and then there are the rest of us who do and say silly things that make us feel stupid.

I'm thinking you are the 2nd....like most of us......most definitely me!

He's from Georgia so I am sure it'll slip out at some point.

:)

Ha, I like that!

ohgodew.

more sexual harassment!!

He truly is a sellout and in days gone by, he's what they'd called a House Negro! (to put it mildly)

TAC...not you...but understand not all slaves where whipped by their white master's....some were whipped by someone that would represent Cain.

Thanks for putting it mildly.....it is a good site that MANY wouldn't understand the "House Comment".....sad or catering to those that they think will help them...ie Cain

No not me (thanks)...one of my friends summed him up best:

"Cain would've been one of those Africans that sold other Africans into slavery and if his sister tried to escape he would tell the slave driver...she hidin' under that haystack massa"...

"a lot of blacks are brainwashed into voting for Democrats"
"blacks are too poor to be Republicans"
"I'm a Koch Brother from another mother - and proud of it"

Cain would've been one of those Africans that sold other Africans into slavery and if his sister tried to escape he would tell the slave driver...she hidin' under that haystack massa"...

TAC...enough said....Cain is someone that I would defend someone saying he is an "Uncle Tom" because he truly isn't....He is a Sambo or Gumbo!!!! Read the story Uncle Tom is a compliment and he is not a compliment but only for himself which means that he identifies with any color other than hispanic and black.....he needs help

Wow! I was wondering when all the racist comments would surface! And, these comments from the "see no color" and upstanding card carrying liberals?

Wow, just WoW!

What these comment represent is not racism, but what such a person as Herman Cain is perceived to be in the historical perspective of slavery.

I suppose that some posters here on the vine are aware that I am black (Lord knows, I've said it enough times), and though I would not dare speak for the sensibilities of all black people in this country......

I will say that as a Democrat and a Liberal, and an intelligent person, I will take the same stance as these posters have taken in accurately depicting what that factual historical perspective is as being descriptive of exactly what Herman Cain is.

I am not offended and I support the depictions. There is something strangely curious about your supposedly being so offended......IMPO.

Time ran out on the remainder of my comment, so let me finish.

There is plenty of videotaped evidence of who attends those campaign stomps of Herman Cain. If any historically aware black person was asked to describe Herman Cain's way of appealing to that crowd of mostly whites, then you would probably be surprised to hear that calling him an Uncle Tom or a house negro is certainly a lot kinder than what such a truly knowledgeable black person would truly call him.

There is also plenty of videotaped evidence of who attended those Teaparty healthcare rallies where the President was depicted as an African witchdoctor with a bone in his nose, and every verbally offensive sign that was shown that had nothing to do with their objections to healthcare legislation. It had to do with the President's race, and you know it.

The messages from the Teaparty would have sufficed without all the racist actions.

Videotape is mother in this technological world of today, so before you attempt to show some manner of being offended by what you believe to be racist from liberals, check your own past actions and words for what you dismissed concerning the actions of the Teaparty/ Republican/Rightwing.

At this point, your slip is showing.

Actually, I've been waiting on him to break out the tap dancing shoes.

Then you would probably see throngs of black people show up to whup his as......nevermind.

Thank you and I'm black too and I stand by every word...

Actually, I've been waiting on him to break out the tap dancing shoes.

Kind of reminds me of Mr. Bojangles maybe he can wear Sammy's suit as well...lol

DS12,

Or appear on a box of rice.

It seems that everything Cain says is a gaffe. Even that remark about Nancy Pelosi - after he said it he said I shouldn't have said it. This guy needs to think before he opens his mouth. And then think again.

The remark he made on Jimmy Kimmel the other night - he said I almost said something my handlers said I shouldn't - then he still slips up.

It seems like everytime he opens his mouth - his brain is not engaged.

That seems true for just about every GOP candidate - but Cain really takes the cake.

It seems that everything Cain says is a gaffe. Even that remark about Nancy Pelosi - after he said it he said I shouldn't have said it.

No he said in effect that he shouldn't have said it because the press is on his ass about it. Here is the apology. From CNN and you can watch the video.

"I apologize for calling her 'Princess Pelosi,' if that's the biggest story you all have, OK?" Cain told reporters after addressing supporters at a diner in Ypsilanti, Michigan.

When asked why he apologized, the former pizza executive said, "So you all will stop asking me about it, OK?"

He didn't apologize, he tried to shut up the questions. The man has no sense of shame or remorse. He is yet another in a long lone of CEO and politician psychopaths and sociopaths that rise to power in this country of twisted priorities.

He's not a serious candidate - he's a Koch Brothers bought & paid for diversion to provide temporary cover for Mitt Romney and his many positions on every issue.

Cain is now on the way out and pretty soon we'll get to see Mitt in full flip flop mode...paving the way for President Obama to be re-elected.

Cain was never a serious candidate. Only in his dreams. Along with the wet ones.

Well... we know that he's knee deep now... <giggle>

Oooooowheeee!!! Shame on ya'll!!!

ROFLMAseriouslyOFF!!

Spat iced tea on the puter screen, (probably need to take a xanax)

nee-deep nee-deep